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: Press - Trivia/Bloopers - Escape From New York
Avco-Embassy Pictures, the studio
behind the film, preferred either
Charles Bronson
or
Tommy Lee Jones
to play the role of "Snake" Plissken to director/co-writer John Carpenter's
choice of Kurt Russell, who at the time was trying to overcome his "lightweight"
screen image gained through his appearance in several
Disney
comedies. Carpenter refused to cast Bronson on the grounds that he was too old.
John Carpenter originally wanted
Clint Eastwood but couldn't afford him.
The wire-frame computer graphics on the display screens in the glider were not
actually computer graphics. (Computers capable of 3D wire-frame imaging were
way
too expensive when this was made.) To generate the "wire-frame" images,
they
built a model of the city, painted it black, attached bright white tape to the
model buildings in an orderly grid, and moved a camera through the model city.
A scene in the beginning of the film where Snake and another criminal are
robbing
a high-security bank, which leads to his arrest and sentence to New
York, was in
the original script but was cut from the film before release. Previews can be
found
on the Special Edition LD and the Director's Cut vhs. The whole scene exists on the EFNY SE DVD.
Most of the movie was filmed in the
summer of
1976
&
1977
in
East St. Louis,
Illinois. The area (essentially a large ghetto across the
river from the decidedly more wealthy St. Louis proper) had been burned out in
1976 during a massive urban fire. Carpenter saw this disaster as a perfect
setting for his apocalyptic vision of Manhattan Island Maximum Security Prison
in the story.
The city of St. Louis allowed the production to shut down all the electricity in
this
part of the town.
Only the Statue Of Liberty shot in the beginning was actually filmed in New
York,
the rest was in St. Louis. There was still a big mess on the streets when
shooting
was over and the studio was billed a pretty penny to have it cleaned up.
It was hot shooting in St. Louis and mosquitos were very enoying explains Isaac
Hays.
The bridge portrayed as the "69th St.
Bridge" is actually the Old Chain of Rocks Bridge, famous for its 22 degree bend
in the middle of the bridge. The bridge connects Missouri to Illinois and is now
a bicycle-pedestrian bridge.
In the Korean dub of the film, Snake
Plissken was called "Cobra" while in the Italian version he was called "Hyena".
Debra Hill does the opening narration and the voice of the computer.
While many sources write that the film's
production budget was $7 million, John Carpenter himself says the budget was
more around $5.5 million.
The film grossed $25.2 million in American theaters in the summer of 1981, with
same amount grossed in foreign markets, making an over $50 million mega
box-office hit in ratio to John Carpenter's production budget of $5.5-7 million.
After the smash success of
Halloween,
the small studio of Avco-Embassy signed filmmaker John Carpenter and producer
Debra Hill to a two-picture deal. The first film from this contract was 1980s
The Fog
and this film finished out the contract.
Initially, the second film that Carpenter was going to make to finish the
contract out was
The Philadelphia
Experiment but because of script-writing problems,
Carpenter junked it for this project, which its initial script-draft he had
penned back in the 1970s, and the studio greenlighted it.
The final scenes were filmed at the
Sepulveda Dam,
in
Sherman Oaks, Los
Angeles, California.
The Duke's
Cadillac Fleetwood
with the fender-mounted chandeliers is a direct influence in the art car
community.
William
Gibson credits the character Bob Hauk as
an inspiration for his character "Armitage" in the novel
Neuromancer.
In that novel, Armitage forces the protagonist to cooperate in a manner similar
to the way Snake's cooperation is coerced.
Director Trademark:
[John Carpenter] [names] Cronenberg, Romero.
The shot where the helicopter glides over Central Park were actually filmed in
San
Fernando. The buildings in
back were painting by future director James
Cameron.
Carpenter wrote the script in the 1970’s after the Watergate issue. The script
made
fun of presidents so bad
that no studio would touch it.
When Snake is fighting the 400-pound guy, Russell was actually afraid for his
life.
The other actor was so into
his role Russell didn’t want to work with him.
British actor Donald
Pleasence originally turned down the role of the president because he didn’t
think
someone not from America
could play the part. Carpenter finally talked him
into it
by saying, “Image you are the love child of Ronald
Reagan and Margaret
Thatcher.”
British
actor
Donald Pleasence
plays the President of the United States without putting on an American accent.
The United States constitution requires that the President be a native born
citizen of the United States. Pleasence came up with an explanation for how the
character came to be both born in the United States and have an English accent,
but John Carpenter said that film audiences would not care and would just accept
what was depicted.
The woman in the diner is played by
Season Hubley,
who was, at the time, Kurt Russell's wife.
Snake Plissken was the inspiration for
Solid Snake,
hero of the
Metal Gear
series, and the plot was also the inspiration for
Metal Gear 2: Solid
Snake (sneak into an indomitable fortress to rescue a VIP
and an important tape/cartridge that determines the fate of the world).
Furthermore, in
Metal Gear Solid 2:
Sons of Liberty, Solid Snake goes by the alias of Iroquois
Pliskin. Metal Gear also uses the same font in its logo for the first
game as
Escape From New York.
There are several other references to Escape from New York in the
Metal Gear
series. Otacon, the scientist ally of Solid Snake is based off of Brain. In
every
Metal Gear Solid
game, there is a part where your character is left with nothing after being
knocked out and tortured, very similar to how Snake Plisskin escaped from The
Duke. A mined area is also a trend in the
Metal Gear
series. In a trailer for Metal Gear Solid 4, of a fairly jokey atmosphere has
Solid Snake sit down in a deck chair much like Snake Plissken does in Escape
from New York and LA. Also, Lee Van Cleef, who starred in the film, serves as
the basis of the MGS villain Revolver Ocelot, for his portrayal of "Angel Eyes"
in
The Good, the Bad, and
the Ugly
Kurt Russell helped to design the Snake outfit.
When released in Italy the subtitles mistranslated nuclear fission as nuclear
fixation.
Snake Plissken is name after a friend of a friend who actually had a snake tattoo
on
his chest.
Maggies death scene was shoot in John Carpenter's and Adrienne Barbeau's old
garage before they splitt up.
The cover art on the DVD release for Escape From New York features Snake
Plissken in front of New York City engulfed in flames. Snake is holding a gun in
his right hand, and his left bicep is exposed. On his arm is a snake tattoo, but
in the movie a different snake tattoo only appears on his stomach while his left
arm is conspicuously blank. He also holds a much different gun; a rifle as
opposed to a silenced Ingram
MAC-10.
Escape From New York is a legendary pizza
parlor on Portland, OR's artistic 23rd St. It features huge wall murals with a
New York City theme and pizzas (whole or by the slice) with slices over a foot
in length. It's popular among Portlanders and tourists from all walks of life.
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy have a character named Hoss Delgado. Hoss
is modeled after Ash from Evil Dead and Snake Plissken. The cartoon airs on
Cartoon Network. Hoss has Snake's gung ho, take no prisoners attitude as well as
Ash's replaced arm. Hoss usually has a metal fist or a crossbow for shooting
chainsaws. He also wears the clothing of Snake in LA.
Bloopers:
Errors in geography: New York's 59th St Bridge is referred to as the "69th St
Bridge."
Miscellaneous: Italian subtitles mistranslate "fission" as "fixation."
Revealing mistakes: Walls in the "Choc full o' Nuts" building clearly made of
styrofoam.
Continuity: Baseball bat falls off the head of the gladiator, but is back again
in
subsequent shots.
Crew or equipment visible: You can see a crew member giving Isaac Hayes a
"stand-up"
cue quite visibly in the
left side of the screen when The Duke is quieting
the Madison Square Garden crowd.
Incorrectly regarded as goofs: At the start, the scientist tells Snake they
cannot
neutralize the explosion until
15 minutes before the deadline. In other words, it can
be neutralized anywhere
from 15 minutes to a fraction of
a second before the
deadline, but no sooner. Therefore, it's OK that Snake lets
the timer run down to 6
seconds.
Continuity: Maggie fires 7 shots from a 6 shot capacity revolver at the Duke as
he
bears down on her on the
bridge.
Crew or equipment visible: Snake and the others return to the elevator on top of
the
World Trade Centre
(immediately following the loss of the jet-glider). Sticking out
near the jam,
you can see the fingers of a crew
member pushing the right-side door
closed.
Incorrectly regarded as goofs: The president is clearly British. In order to
qualify for
US presidency you must be
a natural-born US citizen and have lived in the US for 14
years, but he could
have been born in the US and grown
up in the UK, moving back as
an adult, or even born abroad to US parents.
Continuity: Snake's time limit was stated as 22 hours, but his Master Life Clock
started at 22:59:57, or 23 hours.
Crew or equipment visible: Crew fingers visible closing elevator door after
failed
escape run to glider. Seen on
widescreen DVD edition.
Factual Errors: When Snake lands on top of the World Trade Center tower, his
altimeter indicates less than 200.
The tower was over 1300 feet.
: Escape From L.A. - Trivia
At the beginning of the film,
Kurt Russell wears his costume from the
original film, which still fit after 15 years.
Kurt Russell practiced
playing basketball between scenes as he wanted to make all of his shots
legitimately in the basketball scene later on. He made all of those shots purely
on his own talent, even the full-court one.
When Snake is done playing basketball and tries to escape through the gate, the
bald, black guard wearing sunglasses holding a gun is actually
Isaac Hayes (uncredited cameo), who played the
Duke of New York in
Escape from New York (1981).
In an homage to the famed studio tour where Jaws pops out of the water, a shark
tries to bite the mini-sub just as it passes the sign for Universal Studios.
There are several references to Snake Plissken and the city of Cleveland. This
is an in joke reference to a friend
John Carpenter's who knew a guy from Cleveland
named Snake Plissken where Carpenter got the name for the character when he was
writing
Escape from New York (1981)
During the climactic battle scene, when
Steve Buscemi's character is hanging off the
helicopter, several stores are visible in the matte shot behind him. One of the
prominent buildings is clearly marked "Miniatures", a reference to the
filmmaking technique.
The orphan in the cap that Snake Plissken makes eye contact with while being
escorted down the hallway was played by 'Kurt Russell (I) 's son Wyatt.
: Escape From L.A. - Bloopers
Continuity: When Snake first
encounters Cuervo in his limousine, his head tracks at three times the speed of
Cuervo's car.
Continuity: When Snake is attempting his fifth shot at the basket, the automatic
timer shows 3 seconds twice.
Continuity: In the final fight scene between Snake and Cuervo, Cuervo's knife
disappears occasionally from the ground.
Continuity: The wristwatch counter shows 6 hours 59 minutes. Then he is told he
has seven and a half hours left.
Continuity: The size of the dot that Map of the Stars Eddie paints on the disk
changes.
Continuity: When Snake approaches the Happy Kingdom amusement park on the hang
glider (with the others) the sun is just
coming up. Half an hour later (in the story), when Snake makes it off LA, it is
dead of night.
Continuity: During the fight after the basketball game, Cuervo drops the black
box twice.
Continuity: Near the end of the movie when he is escaping in the helicopter the
bazooka is empty. You can see through barrel. Then four seconds later the
bazooka fires.